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	<title>Comments on: UK government&#8217;s new &#8220;Office for Disability Issues&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/office-for-disability-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, thanks Pixeldiva. I was talking about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.out-law.com/default.aspx?page=6231&quot;&gt;Ryan Air web site&lt;/a&gt; with a solicitor friend, who told me (erroneously) that the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Disability Rights Commission&quot;&gt;DRC&lt;/abbr&gt; could bring prosecutions.

I phoned them up, and they explained that they couldn&#039;t bring a prosecution under the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Disability Discrimination Act&quot;&gt;DDA&lt;/abbr&gt; for the reason you state, and that they could no longer give legal assistance to an individual who wished to bring about a private case, because they no longer have a casework unit.

Interestingly, the adviser (Valerie) told me that in any case, they wouldn&#039;t be interested in assisting  a case of website inaccessibility, as they&#039;ve preferred to concentrate on cases that would set a precedent that would benefit the majority of people with disabilities, not just an individual.

So, although &lt;em&gt;we&lt;/em&gt; bang on about web accessibility and think it&#039;s important, the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Disability Rights Commission&quot;&gt;DRC&lt;/abbr&gt; seem to believe that it&#039;s a marginal issue. Yet they sponsored the British Standards Institute&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drc-gb.org/newsroom/newsdetails.asp?id=805&amp;section=4&quot;&gt;Publicly Available Specification on  web accessibility&lt;/a&gt;.

Yet from what Valerie says, the onus, cost, stress and hassle of bringing about a case for discrimination due to web in accessibility is therefore entirely the responsibility of the individual affected, with no assistance from the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Disability Rights Commission&quot;&gt;DRC&lt;/abbr&gt; (&quot;Our goal: a society where all disabled people can participate fully as equal citizens&quot;).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, thanks Pixeldiva. I was talking about the <a href="http://www.out-law.com/default.aspx?page=6231">Ryan Air web site</a> with a solicitor friend, who told me (erroneously) that the <abbr title="Disability Rights Commission">DRC</abbr> could bring prosecutions.</p>
<p>I phoned them up, and they explained that they couldn&#8217;t bring a prosecution under the <abbr title="Disability Discrimination Act">DDA</abbr> for the reason you state, and that they could no longer give legal assistance to an individual who wished to bring about a private case, because they no longer have a casework unit.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the adviser (Valerie) told me that in any case, they wouldn&#8217;t be interested in assisting  a case of website inaccessibility, as they&#8217;ve preferred to concentrate on cases that would set a precedent that would benefit the majority of people with disabilities, not just an individual.</p>
<p>So, although <em>we</em> bang on about web accessibility and think it&#8217;s important, the <abbr title="Disability Rights Commission">DRC</abbr> seem to believe that it&#8217;s a marginal issue. Yet they sponsored the British Standards Institute&#8217;s <a href="http://www.drc-gb.org/newsroom/newsdetails.asp?id=805&#038;section=4">Publicly Available Specification on  web accessibility</a>.</p>
<p>Yet from what Valerie says, the onus, cost, stress and hassle of bringing about a case for discrimination due to web in accessibility is therefore entirely the responsibility of the individual affected, with no assistance from the <abbr title="Disability Rights Commission">DRC</abbr> (&#8220;Our goal: a society where all disabled people can participate fully as equal citizens&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: pixeldiva</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/office-for-disability-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>pixeldiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel a bit like I&#039;ve been flogging a horse wot&#039;s carked it lately, but...

Organisations can&#039;t currently bring prosecutions against other organisations under the DDA. It&#039;s designed for individuals to take action where they feel they have been discriminated against. The DRC et al can support such individuals by providing advocacy support etc, but it has to be the individual who initiates it and keeps it going.

This is exactly how it should be.

The last thing we need is something that would start up an industry around taking organisations to court, even if in the short term, it might mean a few more accessible sites. In the long term I think it would be damaging to the accessibility cause at large.

Yes, it frustrates me beyond belief that there&#039;s no case law and that sites are still in the largely inaccessible state they&#039;re in, but until an individual is prepared to go through all the stress and hassle of a court case and not accept a settlement mid way, it&#039;s the way it&#039;s going to remain - unless they change the terms of the DDA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel a bit like I&#8217;ve been flogging a horse wot&#8217;s carked it lately, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Organisations can&#8217;t currently bring prosecutions against other organisations under the DDA. It&#8217;s designed for individuals to take action where they feel they have been discriminated against. The DRC et al can support such individuals by providing advocacy support etc, but it has to be the individual who initiates it and keeps it going.</p>
<p>This is exactly how it should be.</p>
<p>The last thing we need is something that would start up an industry around taking organisations to court, even if in the short term, it might mean a few more accessible sites. In the long term I think it would be damaging to the accessibility cause at large.</p>
<p>Yes, it frustrates me beyond belief that there&#8217;s no case law and that sites are still in the largely inaccessible state they&#8217;re in, but until an individual is prepared to go through all the stress and hassle of a court case and not accept a settlement mid way, it&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s going to remain &#8211; unless they change the terms of the DDA.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/office-for-disability-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t succumb to the temptation to say it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t succumb to the temptation to say it!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/office-for-disability-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 07:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man, if ever there was an excuse to use the phrase &quot;The blind leading the blind&quot; this is it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, if ever there was an excuse to use the phrase &#8220;The blind leading the blind&#8221; this is it!</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/office-for-disability-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bruce,
I just filled in the questionnaire asking them to make sure other government departments practice what they preach and have accessible sites. I&#039;d like to see them bring a test prosecution against a large commercial web site, too. A bank or travel bookers - something to get headlines.

Nice blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bruce,<br />
I just filled in the questionnaire asking them to make sure other government departments practice what they preach and have accessible sites. I&#8217;d like to see them bring a test prosecution against a large commercial web site, too. A bank or travel bookers &#8211; something to get headlines.</p>
<p>Nice blog!</p>
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