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	<title>Comments on: On &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243;</title>
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		<title>By: Jet</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/on-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-484473</link>
		<dc:creator>Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been experimenting with various collaboration &amp; document sharing tools and have discovered an excellent site.  It is a very user friendly, web-based application that is well worth taking the time to explore.  Take a few minutes and look at Projjex.com.  The tutorials are excellent &amp; you don&#039;t need to be a Rocket Scientist to figure out how to use it.  It even offers a free version so you can try it on for size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been experimenting with various collaboration &amp; document sharing tools and have discovered an excellent site.  It is a very user friendly, web-based application that is well worth taking the time to explore.  Take a few minutes and look at Projjex.com.  The tutorials are excellent &amp; you don&#8217;t need to be a Rocket Scientist to figure out how to use it.  It even offers a free version so you can try it on for size.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/on-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-29390</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you&#039;ve decided to be &quot;Web 2.0&quot; and abandon accessibility? How does that sit with the faith-based organizations, social welfare organizations and  health issues organizations you market your product to, as a matter of interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you&#8217;ve decided to be &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; and abandon accessibility? How does that sit with the faith-based organizations, social welfare organizations and  health issues organizations you market your product to, as a matter of interest?</p>
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		<title>By: Chief Apricot for non-profits</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/on-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-29348</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief Apricot for non-profits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good write-up.
The flock yourself blog seem to be gone forever - any idea if there is a new reincarnation?

Accessibility is a big issue for Web 2.0 - actually for all modern web apps. As we are working on our very own Web 2.0 app (Wild Apricot - web software for non-profits, associations etc.) we had to make a decision about accessibility. Unfortunately, we could not afford to make the system backend support all the  accessibility standards because it would mean two or three times more coding (not 10% or 25% - and I am NOT exaggerating). Creating interactive AND usable interfaces is very hard - and I do not know if many developers can manage to do it on their own. Development frameworks and browsers have to help too.
By the way - one more significant concern is security. Ajax brings more security problems to the table and a lot of developers do not have the expertise to do anything but slap together some library code - and leave the site totally exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good write-up.<br />
The flock yourself blog seem to be gone forever &#8211; any idea if there is a new reincarnation?</p>
<p>Accessibility is a big issue for Web 2.0 &#8211; actually for all modern web apps. As we are working on our very own Web 2.0 app (Wild Apricot &#8211; web software for non-profits, associations etc.) we had to make a decision about accessibility. Unfortunately, we could not afford to make the system backend support all the  accessibility standards because it would mean two or three times more coding (not 10% or 25% &#8211; and I am NOT exaggerating). Creating interactive AND usable interfaces is very hard &#8211; and I do not know if many developers can manage to do it on their own. Development frameworks and browsers have to help too.<br />
By the way &#8211; one more significant concern is security. Ajax brings more security problems to the table and a lot of developers do not have the expertise to do anything but slap together some library code &#8211; and leave the site totally exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/on-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-7417</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 08:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you understood my article; I&#039;m all for  new, interactive pages, and all for community (WordPress, blogger etc  have enabled squillions of people to publish, comment and interact without knowing or caring about html, tcl/ip etc). But there&#039;s nothing inherently  &quot;2.0&quot; about community; how long have slashdot, metafilter etc been going? They&#039;re hardly poster children for the &quot;Web 2.0&quot; crew.

What  I object to is the marketing bollocks - in the same way that objecting to the stupidities of 1999 didn&#039;t make you anti-Web, just anti-bullshit. 

Slapping a tagcloud, large pastel fonts and some Ajax lovliness on random site x does not indicate a new paradigm. What it does indicate, in the cases I point out above, is bankruptcy of imagination and an anti-Web paradigm. 

Locking out people with disabilities because of ill-thoughtout Ajax is not Web 2.0. It&#039;s  Web &lt;strong&gt;-&lt;/strong&gt;1.0

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you understood my article; I&#8217;m all for  new, interactive pages, and all for community (WordPress, blogger etc  have enabled squillions of people to publish, comment and interact without knowing or caring about html, tcl/ip etc). But there&#8217;s nothing inherently  &#8220;2.0&#8243; about community; how long have slashdot, metafilter etc been going? They&#8217;re hardly poster children for the &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; crew.</p>
<p>What  I object to is the marketing bollocks &#8211; in the same way that objecting to the stupidities of 1999 didn&#8217;t make you anti-Web, just anti-bullshit. </p>
<p>Slapping a tagcloud, large pastel fonts and some Ajax lovliness on random site x does not indicate a new paradigm. What it does indicate, in the cases I point out above, is bankruptcy of imagination and an anti-Web paradigm. </p>
<p>Locking out people with disabilities because of ill-thoughtout Ajax is not Web 2.0. It&#8217;s  Web <strong>-</strong>1.0</p>
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		<title>By: Fe Line</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/on-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-7401</link>
		<dc:creator>Fe Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 03:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everybody automatically assume that &quot;Web 2.0&quot; is hype? There&#039;s a very reasonable point to be made that the web has changed in the last ten years and so we use a new term to refer to it. Big furry deal.

See for example: http://unwantedinsights.blogspot.com/2006/04/two-point-oh.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everybody automatically assume that &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; is hype? There&#8217;s a very reasonable point to be made that the web has changed in the last ten years and so we use a new term to refer to it. Big furry deal.</p>
<p>See for example: <a href="http://unwantedinsights.blogspot.com/2006/04/two-point-oh.html" rel="nofollow">http://unwantedinsights.blogspot.com/2006/04/two-point-oh.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mads Kristensen</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/on-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-3370</link>
		<dc:creator>Mads Kristensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Troels. Get your hands dirty. The learning of Ajax (hijax) isn&#039;t at all different than learning anything else. Just go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Troels. Get your hands dirty. The learning of Ajax (hijax) isn&#8217;t at all different than learning anything else. Just go for it.</p>
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