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		<title>By: Ian Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/semantics-standards-accessibility-the-stool-of-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering the same thing, Chris. I imagine it would be one of their more old-fashioned comic strips, reminiscent of 1940s Boys Own stories. Anyway ...

Like the summary, Bruce. As ever, you put it in a very readable and easy-to-understand way (dare I say it, you have an &#039;accessible&#039; style?). In addition, any article that uses the phrase &#039;pre-menstrual dalek&#039; has got to be good.

Anyone who has met you might not realise that you have a disability, but that just goes to show how many others are in the same boat, so to speak. It&#039;s important to remind people of this.

Anyway, you focused on that one leg. Now I&#039;d be interested to see one of the other legs of this &#039;stool&#039; alongside it - that being the design leg. The examples of accessible sites that look like they&#039;ve actually had an iota of designer input are few and far between (I&#039;m not including the personal blogs here - they almost don&#039;t count, in my opinion, preaching as they are to the converted - but rather I&#039;m thinking of the bigger sites out there). 

You know what though, I like Malarkey&#039;s trifle analogy more than the stool one. Especially if I have to eat it ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering the same thing, Chris. I imagine it would be one of their more old-fashioned comic strips, reminiscent of 1940s Boys Own stories. Anyway &#8230;</p>
<p>Like the summary, Bruce. As ever, you put it in a very readable and easy-to-understand way (dare I say it, you have an &#8216;accessible&#8217; style?). In addition, any article that uses the phrase &#8216;pre-menstrual dalek&#8217; has got to be good.</p>
<p>Anyone who has met you might not realise that you have a disability, but that just goes to show how many others are in the same boat, so to speak. It&#8217;s important to remind people of this.</p>
<p>Anyway, you focused on that one leg. Now I&#8217;d be interested to see one of the other legs of this &#8216;stool&#8217; alongside it &#8211; that being the design leg. The examples of accessible sites that look like they&#8217;ve actually had an iota of designer input are few and far between (I&#8217;m not including the personal blogs here &#8211; they almost don&#8217;t count, in my opinion, preaching as they are to the converted &#8211; but rather I&#8217;m thinking of the bigger sites out there). </p>
<p>You know what though, I like Malarkey&#8217;s trifle analogy more than the stool one. Especially if I have to eat it <img src='http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris McEvoy</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/semantics-standards-accessibility-the-stool-of-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris McEvoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure that the &quot;Stool Of Truth&quot; isn&#039;t a Viz comic strip?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure that the &#8220;Stool Of Truth&#8221; isn&#8217;t a Viz comic strip?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/semantics-standards-accessibility-the-stool-of-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did&#039;t know that, Lachalan. Ta for pointing it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did&#8217;t know that, Lachalan. Ta for pointing it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Lachlan Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/semantics-standards-accessibility-the-stool-of-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Lachlan Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article, but you made one little mistake.  The validator isn&#039;t always right (there are bugs), but it is very close.  However, because the chances of a relatively inexperienced author finding a validation bug (especially one that isn&#039;t already known) are slim to nil, there&#039;s little harm in saying the validator is always right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article, but you made one little mistake.  The validator isn&#8217;t always right (there are bugs), but it is very close.  However, because the chances of a relatively inexperienced author finding a validation bug (especially one that isn&#8217;t already known) are slim to nil, there&#8217;s little harm in saying the validator is always right.</p>
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		<title>By: Gez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Bruce. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The Validator, which is always right and as merciless as a pre-menstrual dalek.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is probably going slightly off-topic, but one weakness of markup validators is that they don&#039;t safeguard against DOM injection. It&#039;s becoming more and more popular to see techniques that add invalid elements and/or attributes using scripting, purely so they get a clean bill of health from markup validators. As the scripts always run when the page is loaded, it would be relatively straight forward for markup validators to include changes to the DOM made through scripting.

Of course, their biggest weakness is the point that you make; they have no idea of what is semantically correct for the content.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Bruce. </p>
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The Validator, which is always right and as merciless as a pre-menstrual dalek.
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<p>This is probably going slightly off-topic, but one weakness of markup validators is that they don&#8217;t safeguard against DOM injection. It&#8217;s becoming more and more popular to see techniques that add invalid elements and/or attributes using scripting, purely so they get a clean bill of health from markup validators. As the scripts always run when the page is loaded, it would be relatively straight forward for markup validators to include changes to the DOM made through scripting.</p>
<p>Of course, their biggest weakness is the point that you make; they have no idea of what is semantically correct for the content.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2005/semantics-standards-accessibility-the-stool-of-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have the DRC report in HTML on my site. I promised I&#039;d take it down when the DRC posted its promised HTML version. Aaand that hasn&#039;t happened yet. Somebody needs to eat their own dogfood.

http://joeclark.org/dossiers/DRC-GB.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have the DRC report in HTML on my site. I promised I&#8217;d take it down when the DRC posted its promised HTML version. Aaand that hasn&#8217;t happened yet. Somebody needs to eat their own dogfood.</p>
<p><a href="http://joeclark.org/dossiers/DRC-GB.html" rel="nofollow">http://joeclark.org/dossiers/DRC-GB.html</a></p>
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