Comments on: Breaking news: w3c specs are not the Word of God

By: Jim

Jim — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:28:09 +0000

The humanities world has a whole bunch of scattered resources on XML markup for poetry and plays. Nothing centralised, as far as I can tell. I found the Swinburne archive this morning. They store poems as XML and use some basic XSLT style sheets to transform those to (X)HTML.

By: Bruce

Bruce — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:05:50 +0000

Hi Cecil Some repoistories that I'm checking out at the moment:

Web Patterns
Yahoo design patterns (need to check out accessibility of these)
Boxes and Arrows

Be interested to know what people think of these, or other resources people recommend. (And must sort out styling of lists within comments ...)

By: Cecil Ward

Cecil Ward — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:05:13 +0000

A thought-provoking article Bruce. You referred to an example of how to best mark up a play, figures with captions and poetry. It occurs to me that a repository of best-practice markup patterns would be very worthwhile. Do you agree? If so, any ideas about who, how and where?

By: Johan

Johan — Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:18:11 +0000

Is this not a job for XHTML 2.0, XSLT to add more tags, customize tags through DTDs.

HTML is not the same thing.

By: Sarven Capadisli

Sarven Capadisli — Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:03:49 +0000

There is too much room for interpretation within the W3C specifications. Only a handful of people in the community take the extra step to look deep into the inconsistencies or perhaps even incompleteness of the recommendations. This is one of the main reasons why I wrote: Where are my Web Standards Whether its a dl or a ul has minimal impact in the grand scheme of things. Of course I am not advocating non-compliant markup or progress as far as Markup and Stylesheets go, but rather I question the bottom line; how does my action x impact my user? If only the recommendations were both sound and complete.

By: Jim

Jim — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:36:27 +0000

I don't really get Microformats, except that they allow you to do semantic-y sort of stuff within the unsemantic constraints of HTML, without having to learn the complicated bits of XML. So they're very good for simple things like addresses and calendars I don't see how you would do something complex, like the following, with Microformats. Here the speaker of a speech, sp, is related back to a listing in the cast list, castItem, of the same document.



   Menaechmus
   Peniculus
   
   



Responde, adulescens, quaeso, quid nomen tibist?
Etiam derides, quasi nomen non noveris?
Non edepol ego te, quot sciam, umquam ante hunc diem
              Vidi neque novi; ...

Again, this from the base tag set for drama.