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	<title>Comments on: Blowing a raspberry to Operation Firefox</title>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2007/blowing-a-raspberry-to-operation-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-264467</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-263075&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tim&lt;/a&gt; - good to hear that it&#039;ll be repaired.

Nearly a fine example of how zealous marketing sabotaged the Mozilla branding of open-ness and  standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-263075" rel="nofollow">Tim</a> &#8211; good to hear that it&#8217;ll be repaired.</p>
<p>Nearly a fine example of how zealous marketing sabotaged the Mozilla branding of open-ness and  standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2007/blowing-a-raspberry-to-operation-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-263310</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People still build pages with tables used for layout?

Okay, okay, that&#039;s not so far-fetched. It probably makes sense to designers. The worst culprits I see for it are developers, though. Developers who understand the difference between layers; the separation between form and function, and the need and long-term benefits of abstraction. Developers understand that building something in the most correct way possible means you don&#039;t have to go back and do it again a few months down the line, and know that a good defensive strategy is to stick as close as possible to best practices unless you can be very very sure that the best practice is wrong. Good developers, I mean.

And yet… good developers still write HTML with inline images used solely for effect and tables used solely for layout. It&#039;s like there&#039;s a mental block or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People still build pages with tables used for layout?</p>
<p>Okay, okay, that&#8217;s not so far-fetched. It probably makes sense to designers. The worst culprits I see for it are developers, though. Developers who understand the difference between layers; the separation between form and function, and the need and long-term benefits of abstraction. Developers understand that building something in the most correct way possible means you don&#8217;t have to go back and do it again a few months down the line, and know that a good defensive strategy is to stick as close as possible to best practices unless you can be very very sure that the best practice is wrong. Good developers, I mean.</p>
<p>And yet… good developers still write HTML with inline images used solely for effect and tables used solely for layout. It&#8217;s like there&#8217;s a mental block or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Keenan</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2007/blowing-a-raspberry-to-operation-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-263075</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Keenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll notice a marked improvement shortly.  
If you&#039;re still having trouble, just let me know.  All the images will have alt-tags and the tables should be parsed correctly by your screen-reader.  If you use a magnifier and are running into problems, drop me a note or post a comment.   Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll notice a marked improvement shortly.<br />
If you&#8217;re still having trouble, just let me know.  All the images will have alt-tags and the tables should be parsed correctly by your screen-reader.  If you use a magnifier and are running into problems, drop me a note or post a comment.   Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2007/blowing-a-raspberry-to-operation-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-262749</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t use SIFR, but from what I&#039;ve read, it&#039;s too slow to use as body text, so maybe the Operation Firefox page would be slowed by using SIFR for all its fancy fonts. But I&#039;m willing to be corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use SIFR, but from what I&#8217;ve read, it&#8217;s too slow to use as body text, so maybe the Operation Firefox page would be slowed by using SIFR for all its fancy fonts. But I&#8217;m willing to be corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2007/blowing-a-raspberry-to-operation-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-262445</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or sIFR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or sIFR.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2007/blowing-a-raspberry-to-operation-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-262302</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they used real text for the cipyright notice, down at the bottom (just in case you felt like coopying it :o))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they used real text for the cipyright notice, down at the bottom (just in case you felt like coopying it <img src='http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> ))</p>
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