Comments on: This millenium in HTML 5 (politics)

By: Thoughts on some new HTML5 elements — Nicolas Gallagher — Blog & Ephemera

Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:15:05 +0000

[...] Bruce Lawson has similar concerns and proposes another alternative — removing the need for a wrapping element and defining a new element specifically for marking up subtitles: I agree that hgroup is clumsy and likely to be misused. Rather than wrap an h1 and its h2 subtitle in hgroup to keep the subtitle out of the outlining algorithm, I would prefer to use [...]

By: Todd

Todd — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:13:39 +0000

Great article, Bruce. I agree, I’d rather use heading tags rather than hgroup, personally.

By: david hausdorff

david hausdorff — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:26:35 +0000

VERY informative article. I’m really enjoying your ‘how to blog series.

By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training » Some links for light reading (8/9/09)

Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:32:34 +0000

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By: Michael Kozakewich

Michael Kozakewich — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:05:28 +0000

This is probably the best recap so far.

I’ve noticed that there’ll be nothing special, but then someone will happen to mention a list of things they’re thinking about, someone will talk more in depth on one or two of those points, and then everyone will start disagreeing on one thing or another.
Suddenly, you’ve got this polarized debate over a single item on someone’s list. You can almost guess when it’s going to happen.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:56:41 +0000

Didn’t realise that my elements would be taken literally:

The spec recommends that every header element is at the beginning of some piece of sectioning content, with every header being a ‘h1′. So, how about a simple element ‘h’, with numbering automatically determined by the level of nesting.

The sectioning element can then act as a ‘hgroup’, with only the first ‘h’ appearing in the outline and any others represent subheadings not to be in the outline.

It’s backwards compatible as only ‘h’ will use this new logic, and h1,h2,… can be as they were. And you can have more than 6 levels of headings (not that you’d need to).