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		<title>By: Mathias Bynens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathias Bynens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I’ve compiled &lt;a href=&quot;http://mathiasbynens.be/notes/minimal-html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a list of the smallest possible (X)HTML documents&lt;/a&gt; for each and every HTML and XHTML version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I’ve compiled <a href="http://mathiasbynens.be/notes/minimal-html" rel="nofollow">a list of the smallest possible (X)HTML documents</a> for each and every HTML and XHTML version.</p>
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		<title>By: CSS3 &#38; HTML5 &#8211; CSS3 Selectors</title>
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		<dc:creator>CSS3 &#38; HTML5 &#8211; CSS3 Selectors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bruce Lawson, A Minimal HTML5 Document [...]</description>
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		<title>By: First steps with HTML5 &#171; San Bei Ji</title>
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		<dc:creator>First steps with HTML5 &#171; San Bei Ji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 02:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lawson has a nice, clear writeup of what he considers to be the minimal HTML5 document framework. I agree with this markup template, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Heilmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Heilmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bruce for any browser needs there is the evolt archive: http://browsers.evolt.org/download.php?/lynx/2.81/32bit/lynx2-8-1.zip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bruce for any browser needs there is the evolt archive: <a href="http://browsers.evolt.org/download.php?/lynx/2.81/32bit/lynx2-8-1.zip" rel="nofollow">http://browsers.evolt.org/download.php?/lynx/2.81/32bit/lynx2-8-1.zip</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Heilmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Heilmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 10:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion. To me the most valid point is readability and maintainability of my code. If I rely on a browser engine to make something useful out of this then that doesn&#039;t sound safe to me - I have been fooled by them far too often.

How does this &quot;document&quot; look in a text editor with colour coding? Can I collapse parts of it when I don&#039;t want to be distracted by them? I edit HTML code - if speed is a real concern I write a build script that concatenates, minifies and changes the code to live code. If people really think that a few closing P tags would make their page slower they have not understood gzip on the server. 

We&#039;re developers and should be allowed to write and maintain code that is predictable and follows a clean convention. The last example above is totally fine by me and this is how I write my HTML5 except that I put &quot; around the attributes as that helps my colour coding, too. 

The whole argument that &quot;less code is better&quot; leads to unmaintainable code. If you want to do speedcoding, enter a 64k intro contest in the demo scene - don&#039;t expect future maintainers to be as excited as you are about the things you do as they will not read up why your code is so short and just add random stuff at the end of it. Want proof of that? Compare any CSS document after it went through a few rounds of maintenance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion. To me the most valid point is readability and maintainability of my code. If I rely on a browser engine to make something useful out of this then that doesn&#8217;t sound safe to me &#8211; I have been fooled by them far too often.</p>
<p>How does this &#8220;document&#8221; look in a text editor with colour coding? Can I collapse parts of it when I don&#8217;t want to be distracted by them? I edit HTML code &#8211; if speed is a real concern I write a build script that concatenates, minifies and changes the code to live code. If people really think that a few closing P tags would make their page slower they have not understood gzip on the server. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re developers and should be allowed to write and maintain code that is predictable and follows a clean convention. The last example above is totally fine by me and this is how I write my HTML5 except that I put &#8221; around the attributes as that helps my colour coding, too. </p>
<p>The whole argument that &#8220;less code is better&#8221; leads to unmaintainable code. If you want to do speedcoding, enter a 64k intro contest in the demo scene &#8211; don&#8217;t expect future maintainers to be as excited as you are about the things you do as they will not read up why your code is so short and just add random stuff at the end of it. Want proof of that? Compare any CSS document after it went through a few rounds of maintenance.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SimonH

- readability of the source is very important. (And completely subjective; I find 6502 Assembler quite readable as it was my first programming language)

@Alia

Interesting; I woudn&#039;t even know how to get hold of a copy of Lynx (the real one, not the emulator).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SimonH</p>
<p>- readability of the source is very important. (And completely subjective; I find 6502 Assembler quite readable as it was my first programming language)</p>
<p>@Alia</p>
<p>Interesting; I woudn&#8217;t even know how to get hold of a copy of Lynx (the real one, not the emulator).</p>
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