Rant: HTML5 != CSS 3
Trying out my new Ranting Hat, a present from Japan from Nedjma. Please note that rants are just that, and not necessarily eloquent or factual. (And I know that Eric Meyer and Jeffrey Zeldman are not the only two social liberals in the USA; I’ve actually met the other three.)
Oh, and do I have to say that this is a joke, is personal and nothing to do with my lovely employers at Opera? Unfortunately, I probably do.
(I’ll transcribe it when I’m not so tired)
Transcription thanks to the splendid Karen Mardahl, follow her at @stcaccess.
30 Responses to “ Rant: HTML5 != CSS 3 ”
That… was… brilliant!!!
Glad it’s not me that gets annoyed by that.
You put your new hat on up side down….
Thanks for claryfying that to all those … bastards 
Hey Bruce. Your headband says ‘Divine Wind’. In Japanese it’s pronounced ‘Kamikaze’.
So… Is CSS not developed by the HTML Working Group then?
/me is looking at the video again in head stand position. Much much clearer.
ssɔ =¡ lɯʇɥ
Yeah there is a difference between a divine wind and a mighty wind. 
Great rant Bruce.
@Richard They are both W3C specifications
@Chris I can produce wind that is mighty but only I think it divine
Haha. Brilliant rant. Weekly rant please.
I agree that an <a> tag just for transition effects is wrong semantically, though it was traditionally necessary in order to support certain basic browser functionality on old browsers. For instance, IE 6 will not respond to :hover for any element that is not an anchor – therefore one had to use anchors liberally, or implement rollover effects using JS. I think this is likely a case where traditions are bleeding over into current practice, despite better options being available.
Awesome rant! Loved it
Lovely. Especially the “that’s why they have different … names!” bit – been saying that for ages.
We’re all missing a trick, too – Joe Entrepreneur is just waiting to be sold “Web 3.0″ sites, but simply won’t understand all this HTML5+CSS3+(etc.) malarkey. Apparently, “Web 3.0″ has been used to mean the Semantic Web (like that’s going to happen in a hurry) – that seems like premature labelling given the new web design paradigms these breaking technologies are likely to generate. There’s an obvious need for an umbrella term here, and it’s a marketing need as much as a techie one – so why not “Web 3.0″?
You wascaly Webel! Section 8!
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Wahaha! I love the “you’re doing a number two on the legacy of Zeldman and Meyer every time you confuse HTML5 and CSS”!
You should definitely post more videos. Such talent. Such verve.
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Wow! That was absolutely spot on and had me weeing (or possibly number twoing) myself with laughter. You really should do this more often, Bruce. Thank you!
Genius rant. It definitely is a topic worth clarifying. If I had a pound for every time somebody linked HTML5 % CSS3 together – well I’d be at least 20 quid up!
Brilliant! Not to mention educational value.
Comments 3 and 4 LOL!!!
I second 10. Even better: a rant a day to keep the doctor away.
Thanks again for a good laugh
Nice ranting Bruce, but I’m afraid I was finding it hard to care about HTML5 or CSS. Are you going to be ranting about something that actually matters soon?
Gawd, you are hilarious…. but more importantly, RIGHT ON! Thanks!
Usually I’m painfully embarrassed for people who rant on the yubes, but that was friggin amazing.
PS Did you record it in HTML5? That’s so neat with the captions and everythingers!
And here I thought I was asking an intentionally stupid question. Heckle fail.
Man, all this HTML5/AJAX awesomeness is making me think I need to quit this copywriting gig. Code was way more fun.
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Here here!